Dont care what anybody else says these are definately better than X5 and X7. These are probably heavier but the shifts are so much more positive. Stick with shimano anyday!!!
lawman learn to set ur stuff up properly and u wont have a problem. ive used deore,lx,xt and sram. sram aint bad but shimano rule just set it up properly, and u r good to go.
don't bother looking anywhere else....save your money these shifters are as good as it gets....absolutely no need to spend cash on XT, XTR. excellent!!